Where can I find Gnome 4 rpms, repo?

jonathonp · #1 23rd April 2012, 07:48 AM

I would like to try Gnome 4. I have been searching for Gnome test builds but have not found anything so far.

#2 23rd April 2012, 07:58 AM

Gnome 4 was a April fools day joke!!

http://distrowatch.com/?newsid=07183

http://distrowatch.com/weekly.php?issue=20120402#humour

jonathonp · #3 23rd April 2012, 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Yellowman

Gnome 4 was a April fools day joke!!

http://distrowatch.com/?newsid=07183

http://distrowatch.com/weekly.php?issue=20120402#humour

What I like about the Linux community is people to tend write things that they actually believe. The lies and dishonest behaviour in this world has made me unamused with the title of the article "humour" which i just noticed. In my opinion it's just a waste of the readers time.
With reference to the article, a blank screen is not such a bad idea. At least one can use his or hers imagination to explore what lies beneath.

secipolla · #4 23rd April 2012, 04:16 PM

Look, I'm not one to keep talking about the past as everything improves.
But if you for once tried to suggest some improvement for GNOME 3 (even if it was something blatantly obvious to many many people) to some GNOME devs you would find that article quite funny and in some sense a blessing, as it made humour out of very mean behaviour. Some people there acted like they would rather throw their whole work out than accept suggestions, not to mention the trolls that popped up on every discussion that one could only imagine were GNOME people.
But we move on everything find its proper place eventually.

BBQdave · #5 23rd April 2012, 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by secipolla

Look, I'm not one to keep talking about the past as everything improves.
But if you for once tried to suggest some improvement for GNOME 3 (even if it was something blatantly obvious to many many people) to some GNOME devs you would find that article quite funny and in some sense a blessing, as it made humour out of very mean behaviour. Some people there acted like they would rather throw their whole work out than accept suggestions, not to mention the trolls that popped up on every discussion that one could only imagine were GNOME people.
But we move on everything find its proper place eventually.

+1

It is amazing to see what is developing with Gnome 3 (MATE and Cinnamon), and too, to see Xfce developing and drawing more attention. Gnome 3 was not a good fit for me, but I am digging F16 Xfce.

And too, I laughed my tale off at that article (Gnome 4). Good humor, and a fun way to say, just relax on the flame-war of G3 development.

jonathonp · #6 23rd April 2012, 05:16 PM

The question i asked myself when gnome 3 came out, "does it allow me to get any work done?". We all know the answer to that. It's really common sense when you think about it. Did the developers ever ask such a basic question? If you can't easily customise the desktop then what's the point of using it.

deanej · #7 24th April 2012, 11:26 PM

I will say one good thing about Gnome 3: it got a lot more people to think about what window manager they're going to use rather than just sticking with the default. I'm sure projects like LXDE and XFCE love Gnome 3 because of the additional users they got, and Cinnamon (which IMO has surpassed even Gnome 2 in customization) wouldn't even exist were it not for Gnome 3's failings.

trekkie690 · #8 25th April 2012, 12:38 AM

well Cinnamon is Gnome 3, well gnome3-shell at least

deanej · #9 25th April 2012, 01:36 AM

The back-end at least (though a lot of that is also forked, since the Gnome team proved to be unable to provide bug fixes in a timely matter); the GUIs are as different as night and day.

BBQdave · #10 25th April 2012, 02:43 AM

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Originally Posted by deanej

I will say one good thing about Gnome 3: it got a lot more people to think about what window manager they're going to use rather than just sticking with the default. I'm sure projects like LXDE and XFCE love Gnome 3 because of the additional users they got, and Cinnamon (which IMO has surpassed even Gnome 2 in customization) wouldn't even exist were it not for Gnome 3's failings.

Definitely digging F16 Xfce

And I am curious how much traction (if any) Xfce is gaining with people stepping away from Gnome?

Curious too, about the mind set of fixing Gnome 3 (projects like Cinnamon)? I think it would be great if that extra effort and resources went to Xfce's development (my $.02).

Mister B · #11 25th April 2012, 03:23 AM

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Originally Posted by BBQdave

Definitely digging F16 Xfce

And I am curious how much traction (if any) Xfce is gaining with people stepping away from Gnome?

Curious too, about the mind set of fixing Gnome 3 (projects like Cinnamon)? I think it would be great if that extra effort and resources went to Xfce's development (my $.02).

I ditched Gnome 3 for XFCE. I tried some of the earlier attempts to fix Gnome 3, but they just didn't work well. Maybe I'll give G3 another go, but XFCE is pretty polished these days.

stevea · #12 25th April 2012, 06:15 AM

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Originally Posted by deanej

I will say one good thing about Gnome 3: it got a lot more people to think about what window manager they're going to use rather than just sticking with the default.

Best comment on the topic. It is long past time for ppl to evaluate their actual desktop needs instead of going with the flow.

ElderSnake · #13 25th April 2012, 10:42 AM

I agree too.

And I could be wrong but it seems like in recent times XFCE has been rapidly catching Gnome 2 (even if it has gotten slightly more bloated) and perhaps this whole Gnome 3 thing is partly the reason. For many people, XFCE is probably a good drop in replacement and perhaps the extra features and the like are to help with that and so it becomes the "new Gnome 2", though still lighter weight ATM.

I do think Gnome 3/Shell is improving though... but if you didn't like it in the first place you won't ever like it IMO, simply because of it's paradigm. It has it's place, but thankfully for the rest of us there are plenty of options out there.