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Old 7th June 2012, 02:07 PM
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F16 installation slowly degrading

Hi,

I have been running Fedora 16 on a Dell Studio 17 laptop for several months now. I did a clean install of this release to ensure that I would have a relatively reliable OS for my development work. I have been generally satisfied with this distribution but lately I dread incorporating any updates into the system because I never know what new problems will arise. This anxiety is particularly intense when I install a new kernel version.

The other day I upgraded to the 3.3.7-1.fc16.x86_64 kernel. I had been having problems with having to log in two times and losing bluetooth mouse connection after a system suspend. So I am was hopeful that a system update would fix these issues. But now, with the new updates, I have lost my network icon and I will arbitrarily lose my network connection - both wired and wireless, and the problems with logging in two time and bluetooth are still there.

This is the information written to /var/log/messages at the time of my lost network connection:

Jun 7 07:41:22 mrRoboto NetworkManager[1069]: dbus_g_proxy_begin_call: assertion `!DBUS_G_PROXY_DESTROYED (proxy)' failed
Jun 7 07:41:22 mrRoboto NetworkManager[1069]: nm_supplicant_info_set_call: assertion `call != NULL' failed
Jun 7 07:41:41 mrRoboto NetworkManager[1069]: <info> (eth1): roamed from BSSID 00:25:9C:24:97:75 (Handyman1) to (none) ((none))
Jun 7 07:41:47 mrRoboto NetworkManager[1069]: <info> (eth1): roamed from BSSID (none) ((none)) to 00:25:9C:24:97:75 (Handyman1)
Jun 7 07:42:05 mrRoboto NetworkManager[1069]: dbus_g_proxy_begin_call: assertion `!DBUS_G_PROXY_DESTROYED (proxy)' failed
Jun 7 07:42:05 mrRoboto NetworkManager[1069]: nm_supplicant_info_set_call: assertion `call != NULL' failed
Jun 7 07:42:11 mrRoboto NetworkManager[1069]: <info> (eth1): roamed from BSSID 00:25:9C:24:97:75 (Handyman1) to (none) ((none))
Jun 7 07:42:17 mrRoboto NetworkManager[1069]: <info> (eth1): roamed from BSSID (none) ((none)) to 00:25:9C:24:97:75 (Handyman1)

Can anyone help me out with this problem? If I can't fix this issue, my system is totally useless to me.

p.s. I would enter a bug. But the last two times I put in a bug for losing my bluetooth I got no response whatsoever. This is surprising because I have been using Fedora since version 4 and I always got good response to my bugs in the past.

Any suggestions would be most appreciated.

Thanks for your help!
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Old 7th June 2012, 02:12 PM
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Re: F16 installation slowly degrading

Have you tried booting an older kernel?
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Old 7th June 2012, 02:31 PM
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Re: F16 installation slowly degrading

I have tried booting the last two kernels as well. I still lose my network connections after I have been logged in for some (short) amount of time. This did not happen with these two kernels before my updates.

Thanks for you reply.
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Old 7th June 2012, 03:11 PM
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Re: F16 installation slowly degrading

Maybe try booting the F17 Live CD and see if that improves things.

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Old 7th June 2012, 04:10 PM
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Re: F16 installation slowly degrading

I did try booting F17 Live CD. But I had no bluetooth mouse or wireless network support. I thought that this is because the drivers were not activated. I did however see a network icon.

I am tempted to upgrade to F17 using the Live CD however I am apprehensive because my previous installations on this dual boot machine (Window 7) used the MBR which fell short or the new /boot space requirements. I used the prescribed tricks to install 16 with the limited MBR. And I was fully expecting to have to go through this again. But I just did a check and found the following:

# df -h /boot
Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on
/dev/sda5 497M 97M 376M 21% /boot

It appears that the boot space is now sufficiently sized to handle the newer releases. But it's strange because I don't recall doing anything to resize this.

Can someone verify that I have sufficient space in the /boot to upgrade from F16 to 17? If so, I think I take a chance on upgrading.

Thanks!
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Old 7th June 2012, 04:17 PM
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Re: F16 installation slowly degrading

I sized mine to 500M and it was fine:


# df -h /boot
Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on
/dev/sda1 483M 81M 377M 18% /boot

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Old 7th June 2012, 04:35 PM
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Re: F16 installation slowly degrading

greno,

Great. Did you use Live CD to upgrade? I ask because I have read some disquieting remarks about upgrading using the preupgrade and I wonder if I'll run into similar problems with the Live CD method as well. I don't want to do a clean install because I have a couple of IDE's configured as well as other critical software I would rather not reinstall.

Thanks.
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Old 7th June 2012, 04:39 PM
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Re: F16 installation slowly degrading

No. I installed from the full DVD iso and then migrated everything over from my previous install.

Would be nice if preupgrade could be fixed to work properly.

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Old 13th June 2012, 04:39 PM
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Re: F16 installation slowly degrading

I used Live Update to do a fresh install of F17 on my Dell Studio 17 laptop and it worked flawlessly. Prior to the upgrade, I did a full backup of my user directory in a F16 session using Deja Dup. Once 17 was running I simply did a restore to get back all my data and app settings. I installed some applications that I did not backup(databases, IDE's, web servers, etc.) and I was back in business.

This has been the smoothest and quickest upgrade that I can remember in a long time. (I have been using Fedora since version 4) My compliments to the developers. F17 is great!
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Old 11th July 2012, 12:47 PM
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Re: F16 installation slowly degrading

I have the same issues with 16 on my laptop Acer with Atheros card.\Annoying.
Reboot fixes it, but that feels way to M$ like.
I have always had better luck with the odd numbers of Fedora.
I will try loading 17 and from here on out will stick with odd numbered Fedora installs.
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