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Old 14th August 2012, 09:18 PM
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Re: Fedora18 Schedule & Feature List

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but at the end of the day, somebody has to do real work on a real machine (keyboard and mouse)
True that, from time to time I like to casually browse this forum with my Android phone but when I want to comment at something I really need a keyboard and mouse. It's that or I probably forget about it while I keep on browsing (most of the time it's way too much of a hassle to type a comment with a mobile browser).
On other hand it is good to have an OS that is versatile and touch friendly, e.g. when I use VNC from my phone it is a hack of a lot easier to manoeuvre with Gnome Shell than it was when I still used RDP to control the Windows UI from my Android.

As for Nautilus, I am getting to like its newest itteration, the type-to-search is starting to work really well and the new recent location is also nice.
However I still don't know why they had to remove the tree view (worked quite good in the side bar) and why the old computer:/// had to be replaced by the old (root) file system (computer:/// still works but its desktop icon is missing and in the side bar Computer refers to root).
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Old 22nd August 2012, 11:45 PM
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Re: Fedora18 Schedule & Feature List

Fedora 18 Alpha to slip by one week http://lists.fedoraproject.org/piper...st/109582.html
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Old 25th August 2012, 12:02 AM
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Re: Fedora18 Schedule & Feature List

seems a few peeps already are starting to think this New Anaconda should be delayed for F19 read from this post http://lists.fedoraproject.org/piper...st/109623.html
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Old 25th August 2012, 12:04 PM
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Re: Fedora18 Schedule & Feature List

Anybody tried out DNF yet?
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Old 25th August 2012, 02:05 PM
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Re: Fedora18 Schedule & Feature List

DNF?? As in Do Not Flush?

I don't really see any need to try DNF myself. I much prefer using yum. It serves all of my needs, and is pretty reliable.

But I am still waiting on a version of anaconda that works as I need it to before installing F18.
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Old 25th August 2012, 03:54 PM
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Anybody tried out DNF yet?
I tried it out once and it happily updated some packages that yum refused because of dependency problems (so it is probably not very reliable yet, although I didn't notice anything broken afterwards).
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Old 25th August 2012, 11:37 PM
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Re: Fedora18 Schedule & Feature List

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DNF?? As in Do Not Flush?

I don't really see any need to try DNF myself. I much prefer using yum. It serves all of my needs, and is pretty reliable.

But I am still waiting on a version of anaconda that works as I need it to before installing F18.
might have to wait 2 weeks or more for one, ( as i have posted above why ) some people feel this New anaconda aint ready for F18 yet if there is not gonna be a LiveCD ( something about Code not being written in anaconda yet? least thats what i saw Dennis Gilmore say in the devel irc channel ) but IMO if they release this New anaconda in F18 thats a half baked feature fedora will only cop $h1t from the public about it
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Old 25th August 2012, 11:46 PM
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Re: Fedora18 Schedule & Feature List

I feel that anaconda's not ready as well, and for more reasons than just not being able to get the LiveCD images, though.

No LiveCD images, and the DVD has been crippled to the point where it's totally useless as well. MY vote is to postpone the anaconda update until F19 when it might possibly be a little closer to being ready.

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I am totally in agreement that anaconda does need the complete rewrite, and I had hoped to see it in F18, but it's not ready. I would much rather see it postponed for a release than to put crippled and buggy code in just so they can get it out.

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Old 26th August 2012, 12:13 AM
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Re: Fedora18 Schedule & Feature List

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I feel that anaconda's not ready as well, and for more reasons than just not being able to get the LiveCD images, though.

No LiveCD images, and the DVD has been crippled to the point where it's totally useless as well. MY vote is to postpone the anaconda update until F19 when it might possibly be a little closer to being ready.

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I am totally in agreement that anaconda does need the complete rewrite, and I had hoped to see it in F18, but it's not ready. I would much rather see it postponed for a release than to put crippled and buggy code in just so they can get it out.
i use LiveCD's only to test to make sure its gonna work on my hardware before i download a DvD so LiveCD's are essential to have so releasing F18 Alpha without LiveCD's would be useless
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Old 26th August 2012, 12:21 AM
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i use LiveCD's only to test to make sure its gonna work on my hardware before i download a DvD so LiveCD's are essential to have so releasing F18 Alpha without LiveCD's would be useless
Based on what we have seen so far, does it make a difference between using DVD vs Live CD anymore? I am not sure ...
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Old 26th August 2012, 12:24 AM
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Based on what we have seen so far, does it make a difference between using DVD vs Live CD anymore? I am not sure ...
who is " we " ? thats a bit like saying does it make a difference driving a v6 an a v8 car
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Old 26th August 2012, 02:09 AM
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Re: Fedora18 Schedule & Feature List

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i use LiveCD's only to test to make sure its gonna work on my hardware before i download a DvD so LiveCD's are essential to have so releasing F18 Alpha without LiveCD's would be useless
That is the same here.

I always install from the DVD because I want to customize the install the way I want my system to be, but I will always download and burn the LiveCD images as well. Most of the time I grab the LiveCD first and test things out, then grab the DVD and do the install.

And as things are currently with the new re-write of anaconda, there is only one benefit that I can see in using the DVD image over the LiveCD image. That is being able to choose what filesystem it installs.

The options to install more than one desktop and the options to customize the packages installed are gone.

So in my opinion, the DVD image is practically useless.
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Old 26th August 2012, 02:16 AM
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Re: Fedora18 Schedule & Feature List

hard to say at this point what anaconda they'll be using for F18 going by the ticket AdamW filed an the comments in it. but it wouldnt surprise me if they delay F18 again just to get this New UI out the door. a lot of people do install from a LiveCD,
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Old 26th August 2012, 02:29 AM
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Re: Fedora18 Schedule & Feature List

The netinstall.iso is very good for customizing the packages. Its lot easier that way. It just takes less than an hour to download all the packages.

I use ArchLinux too. When the AIF wasn't ready, they went with the text install option. I would be happy with just a text install of F18 alpha, and when the anaconda is ready maybe they could bring it in beta.
I know there are some strict requirements in fedora, but maybe they could relax the rule a bit.
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Old 26th August 2012, 03:12 AM
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Re: Fedora18 Schedule & Feature List

Actually, relaxing the rules a bit isn't the answer, and could be creating an even larger problem.

What happens if they relax the rules, allowing alpha to be released with anaconda not meeting the criteria, then when beta comes along, anaconda still hasn't met the criteria? By that time, it's too late to go fall back to the previous anaconda, and not enough time to get the new anaconda in.

That is the danger of relaxing the criteria.
 

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