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Old 23rd January 2007, 02:41 AM
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I'm trying to install FC6 X86.64 on a new box with an Intel DG965SS motherboard and Core 2 Duo Processor, and a 320GB Sata hard drive. Although I've installed Fedora before it's always been on machines that have already been running Windows which I've then set up for dual booting Windows and Linux. This time everything is new and I didn't buy another copy of Windows. (My long term goal is to eliminate Microsoft from my personal and professional lives without falling for Apple's overpriced hardware.)

Anyway, the FC6 installation hangs at a point near the beginning with a screen to which I don't know how to respond. I realize this problem may be too hardware-specific for this list. But any information you can give me before I go back to the store would be very helpful. At the store I need to get past the guy who sits up front to the techs working in the back, and I know he's going to say "We don't install Linux" and then try to sell me Vista unless I can convice him I won't be wasting everybody's time.

Here's what happens (and I have exactly the same problems using the FC6 32-bit version):

(1) I get the opening splash screen and hit enter "to install/update in graphical mode".

(2) Several screens-worth of messages zip by, after which I have the keyboard (but no mouse.)

(3) A screen to choose a language. I pick the default "English".

(4) A screen to choose the type of keyboard. I pick the default "us".

(5) A screen asking "What type of media contains the packages to be installed? I pick the default "Local CDROM". (The other options are hard drive, NFS image, FTP and HTTP.) All of these screens appear more "primitive" than the ones I've seen before for making these selections -- they don't have any of the usual Fedora graphics and instead feature those big red & white square buttons that are on the screens for checking the CDs.

(6) Here's the studiously uninformative screen where I'm stuck: "No driver found. Unable to find any devices of the type needed for this installation. Would you like to manually select your driver or use a driver disk." I pick the default "Select driver". (The other option is "Use a driver disk".

(7) A screen to "select the driver you wish to load". There's a long list of them:
3ware 9000 Series Storage Controller (3w-9xxx)
3ware Storage Controller (sw-xxxx)
Acard ATP870U PCI scsi controller (atp870u)
... all the way down to:
nVidia nForce SATA Controllers (sata-nv)
I haven't tried them all, but whatever ones I select give the message "Loading so-and-so driver" and then return me to the "Select driver" screen.

(8) I have an "Intel Express Installer Driver CD" from the store that says "Install this CD first". But I don't get any response when I try to boot from it. The README file says that it's for use with Windows systems.

(9) Back at (6) I select the option "Use driver disk" and try the Intel-Windows driver CD anyway.

(10) A screen saying I have multiple devices which could serve as sources for a driver disk and asking me to choose fd0 or sda. Selecting either of these and loading the Intel CD gives the message "Failed to mount driver disk".

What's going on here? Any insights I can use to work further here (or to help me sound like I know what I'm talking about if I have to go back to the store) would be most appreciated.

Jerry
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Old 23rd January 2007, 03:07 AM
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You didn't say how you're installing, are you using a dvd-iso, cd isos, boot.iso?

Are you using a usb mouse, to enable that you need to enable 'legacy usb support' in your bios.

For unusual sata/scsi drives you need to type 'linux expert' at the boot prompt to enable loading the relevant drivers (I don't know much about this, so hopefully someone else can help here)
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Old 23rd January 2007, 03:23 AM
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I'm using CD isos on a DVD drive. These CDs and the DVD drive on another system worked fine in installing FC6

I have USB mice on all my linux boxes and have never had problems installing Fedora Core since FC4.

I'll try that "linux expert" line at the boot prompt.

Does anyone know the source of this problem? If its the DVD drive then how does the installation get this far?

Thanks, Jerry
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Old 23rd January 2007, 04:30 PM
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A driver not found error usually means that he isn't in the car, so just go find him.

ANYWAY...you have 2 problems which have the same solution.
1. You need a kernel 2.6.19 or higher because, your IDE controller isn't being recognized. You'll need to enable the new libata settings though ("Marvell PATA" controller).
2. You can't use X when installing unless you have a 2.6.19 kernel (which is why you are probably getting the ugly install screen--most likely some primitive framebuffer), because you need a some of the newer features in AGPGART which are only available from > 2.6.19.

So installation is probably going to be tricky. If the newest install DVD has kernel 2.6.19 they you are in luck. Otherwise you are probably going to have to install in text mode via http/ftp (or you local hard drive but that's a pain), then download, compile, and install a new kernel.

As to why your DVD drive boots, it is a bit of a chicken/egg problem relating to IDE controllers. Your drive can boot and do some stuff, but it needs some more information from a driver to be able to do anything else. (Just a guess, we're not that far in computer architecture yet )

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Old 23rd January 2007, 05:15 PM
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I have two questions about this very helpful response:
> ANYWAY...you have 2 problems which have the same solution.
> 1. You need a kernel 2.6.19 or higher because, your IDE controller isn't being recognized. You'll need to enable the new libata settings though ("Marvell PATA" controller).

(1) According to the official Fedora download site the current isos still include kernel 2.6.18. Does anyone know if this documentation is kept up to date; i.e. are these isos updated as new kernel versions are released? If not are isos that include kernel 2.6.19 rather than 2.6.18 available anywhere?

(2) Could you give me a few more words about the "new libata settings" and where I'm supposed to enable them during the installation? What is the Marvell PATA controller?
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Old 24th January 2007, 01:06 AM
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This will solve your problem.
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