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Old 11th March 2008, 02:14 PM
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F7=>F8 Upgrade concerns

Hello All:

OK, I've been putting this off too long, but it has to happen sooner or later. F7 is falling farther and farther behind the mainstream of Fedora, and package updates are becoming harder to come by, especially from the 3rd-party repos. That's not going to get any better as time passes. Right now I have three plain desktop PCs on a LAN, DSL, no public servers at the moment, and no wireless equipment to worry about. I'm probably going to start with the oldest machine, wipe the disk, and try the XFCE spin for a light-weight install.

So, what should I be concerned about with an upgrade? Or not concerned about? I've seen enough around here on the forums lately to be worried about:
> PulseAudio; this feature appears to be...not so ready for prime time;
> Graphics drivers (nvidia); actually, I'm fairly confident about being able to get them to work, but...
> kernel stability; that last one was a bit of a dud.

Anything else I should be concerned about or look out for? Your input and advice will be appreciated.

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Old 11th March 2008, 02:38 PM
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Do a yum update to upgrade ! ( just install the F8 fedora-release rpm first )

You are likely to get package errors with either method you choose to use to update / upgrade !

to clear them after the update try

Code:
su
yum install yum-utils
package-cleanup --dupes
if you have dupes run
Code:
su
package-cleanup --cleandupes

if they still can't be removed due to scriptlet errors try

Code:
su 
rpm -e --noscripts packagename.rpm
also check for other problems ( missing deps )


Code:
su
package-cleanup --problems
Quote:
> PulseAudio; this feature appears to be...not so ready for prime time;
> Graphics drivers (nvidia); actually, I'm fairly confident about being able to get them to work, but...
> kernel stability; that last one was a bit of a dud.

With this method I doubt that pulseaudio will be installed as yum will only replace what is installed + needed deps .


As for Nvidia you use a dkms based driver which will still work OK with F8 , as for the kernel you have the freedom to choose whatever kernel you like as you are not restricted by a kmod .
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Old 11th March 2008, 03:51 PM
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If I were you,I will wait for a while and then install Fedora 9.
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Old 12th March 2008, 03:13 AM
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Quote:
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If I were you,I will wait for a while and then install Fedora 9.
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F7 was great, but im not quite a fan of F8.
About 2 months until F9
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Old 12th March 2008, 03:27 AM
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Is it possible to skip versions on rpm based distros ? I was under the impression an upgrade is only feasible when upgrading to the next version.

EDIT: Sorry, I missed the "wipe the disk" part. I was under the impression there is a chance that upgrades although not recommended by the devs (until F9 reaches out) are both risky but "rewarding" ? Still, finally I understood that you'll "migrate" (don't know if it's more appropriate to call it that way ) to F8 after all.
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Old 12th March 2008, 05:42 AM
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Quote:
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x2

F7 was great, but im not quite a fan of F8.
About 2 months until F9
2 months would be a long time for me,I'm looking for a stable ,beautiful and unexpectable release of Fedora.
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Old 14th March 2008, 02:18 AM
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2 months would be a long time for me,I'm looking for a stable ,beautiful and unexpectable release of Fedora.
Then don't bother going to F8
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