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Old 9th July 2010, 03:30 AM
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Re: Fedora 13 Desktop freezes

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karljs: so you don't even actually have the same symptoms as several others in the thread. 'X fell over' is a completely different bug to 'the system froze'.
I agree with you completely that they are different but I think that the majority of people posting in this thread are having the same problem as me but are not describing it with enough detail.
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Old 9th July 2010, 05:55 AM
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Re: Fedora 13 Desktop freezes

I also have random desktop freeze:

My history start with ubuntu 10.04, same random freeze without any valuable information in /var/log/*. This make me install fedora (about 3 years without using it) but with the same results.

So this time, I decided to install kernel crash utilities (from http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Kernel/kdump), and strangely this seems to solve the kernel freeze. Since the installation I'm getting Xorg crashes. Some of the crashes shutdown X, some of them just freeze X (but I can do ssh from my centos machine, avoiding the reset button).

Not all the crashes are managed by abrt, but I'm posting today abrt catch crashes:
Code:
./ccpp-1278593614-2856/ (08:53)
    component: bash
    cmdline: /bin/sh /usr/lib/ConsoleKit/scripts/ck-system-restart
    reason: SIGSEGV

./ccpp-1278594061-3218/ (09:01)
    component: bash
    cmdline: /bin/bash /usr/bin/run-parts /etc/cron.hourly
    reason: SIGSEGV

./ccpp-1278642103-1322/ (22:21)
    component: xorg-x11-server
    cmdline: /usr/bin/Xorg :0 -nr -verbose -auth /var/run/gdm/auth-for-gdm-kxcUdy/database -nolisten tcp vt1
    reason: SIGABRT
The last one was a X server shutdown (while I'm working is annoying). All of them seems to be just symptoms of something else.
I've installed debug info for X, and gdb says:
Code:
(gdb) where
#0  0x000000330cc329a5 in raise (sig=6) at ../nptl/sysdeps/unix/sysv/linux/raise.c:64
#1  0x000000330cc34185 in abort () at abort.c:92
#2  0x0000000000460c1e in OsAbort () at utils.c:1335
#3  0x000000000046919d in AbortServer () at log.c:425
#4  0x00000000004699f0 in FatalError (f=0x574028 "Caught signal %d (%s). Server aborting\n") at log.c:553
#5  0x000000000046041e in OsSigHandler (signo=11, sip=<value optimized out>, unused=<value optimized out>) at osinit.c:156
#6  <signal handler called>
#7  0x00000000004312fc in CompareISOLatin1Lowered (s1=0xff000001004b20 <Address 0xff000001004b20 out of bounds>, s1len=<value optimized out>, s2=0x583aa8 "nearest", s2len=<value optimized out>) at dixutils.c:177
#8  0x00000000004c54a2 in PictureGetFilterId (filter=0x583aa8 "nearest", len=7, makeit=1) at filter.c:59
#9  0x00000000004c77f0 in SetPictureToDefaults (pPicture=0x3479db0) at picture.c:735
#10 0x00000000004c7e15 in CreatePicture (pid=70382862, pDrawable=0x34ab030, pFormat=0x1004e48, vmask=256, vlist=0x3495e6c, client=0x2c80a70, error=0x7fff6f1b4bbc) at picture.c:786
#11 0x00000000004ce9ba in ProcRenderCreatePicture (client=0x2c80a70) at render.c:612
#12 0x000000000042c28c in Dispatch () at dispatch.c:439
#13 0x000000000042190a in main (argc=<value optimized out>, argv=0x7fff6f1b4dc8, envp=<value optimized out>) at main.c:286
(but I don't know why the signal was thrown).

I'm attaching my full HW specs (generated via lshw), but in summary I have:
AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 4200+
2GB Ram
GeForce 8600 GT (with nouveau, without mesa-dri-drivers-experimental)
Hitachi HD 320GB

The system is fully updated, with the add of rpmfusion repo (for video/audio extra support).

The services currently running are:
Code:
abrtd	atd	cpuspeed	crond
cups	gpm	ip6tables	iptables
irqbalance	kdump	messagebus	netfs
NetworkManager	ntpd	portreserve	rsyslog
sendmail	smolt	sshd	udev-post
And SELinux is disabled.
My fedora installation comes from the gamers spin off.

Well that's all, best regards!
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Old 9th July 2010, 07:17 AM
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Re: Fedora 13 Desktop freezes

Update:

Today, after 2 days, I've got the system complete freeze:
no X, no console, no network access, no crash dump (/var/crash is empty).
So, my hypothesis about installing & setting kdump to avoid kernel freeze was wrong.
As usual, I can't find nothing usable in /var/log/* and abrt didn't work.
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Old 9th July 2010, 08:23 AM
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Re: Fedora 13 Desktop freezes

Hi AdamW,

Dell Dimension 2350/2Ghz P4/1.5GB memory (updated BIOS).
Desktop freezes; cursor still moves with mouse.

Those suffering the same symptoms in this thread, that I can see:
myself (siabost)
karljs
kevmif
jdgiotta
silverback011
esok
- any more?

Yesterday I reinstalled F13 from a different disk - one supplied with a recent Linux Format magazine (LXFDVD134) - and this time the install did not freeze on me.
So far I have not had a "mouse still moves freeze" since the new install & I have been working it quite heavily trying to get WinXP installed via Virtualbox (but that's a story for a different thread). One kernel crash warning but that seemed to pass off with no effect
This new install (after updates) gives me a kernel of 2.6.33.3-85.fc13.i686 - this seems to be different from the majority in this thread.

To clarify, the problems I had U/Xbuntu 10.04 previously on the same machine seem to have been X collapses.

I will post as much info as I can later.


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Old 9th July 2010, 02:24 PM
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Re: Fedora 13 Desktop freezes

I appear to be having the same trouble as many of you. I am running Fedora 13 x86_64, kernel 2.6.33.5-124.fc13.x86_64. I can get the machine to freeze reliably by running gimp and opening a file, or by running Xsane. I still have cursor control after the freeze but the screen doesn't update. I haven't yet tried to ssh into the machine after the freeze. Trying to switch virtual terminals doesn't work.

Update: The machine is not completely dead, because I can ssh into it from another machine. Xorg just locked up hard. I installed Fedora 13 xfce spin on the same machine (it has a slightly different kernel version) and the same problems do not manifest. I even upgraded to (I think) kernel 2.6.33.6-something and it still works well.

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Old 9th July 2010, 08:35 PM
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Re: Fedora 13 Desktop freezes

I've been lurking and figure now is the time to jump in...

I've been having similar problems with a brand new Dell Precision M4500, with an Intel i7-820.

Like others have said, I'm not sure all these go together or not. Just thought I'd throw my info into the mix to help move towards a solution.

It literally locks up at totally random times and I have not been able nail down a set of actions that guarantees a lock up. Sometimes the mouse moves, other times it doesn't. I can ssh in, and start killing off processes but it does not change what appears on the screen. As soon as I kill X, the whole thing locks tight and I lose my ssh connection.

There is nothing suspicion in my Xorg log. However, after every lock up the last line of /var/log/messages is:

kernel: dell-wmi: Received unknown WMI event (0x11)

This is a new machine that I'm moving to, so I have flexibility to fight it for a few days. I'm going to see if I get similar results with any other distros, and also a fresh Fedora 13 install.
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Old 9th July 2010, 10:48 PM
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Re: Fedora 13 Desktop freezes

Anyone know what kernel we should be on in F13 stable (32b & 64b) i.e. non-testing?

Folks posting here seem to be on a variety.

Ta
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Old 9th July 2010, 11:00 PM
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Re: Fedora 13 Desktop freezes

Sorry if I'm jumping into the wrong thread, but I have a problem at boot (as of an update to the newest kernel from a Kpackagekit update yesterday...). In my case, the keyboard works for entering the password for the full disk encryption, but is hung at the point where the user is selected and he enters his password. I have mouse use, but no keyboard. Nor does the virtual keyboard work. So I am stuck because I cannot enter my password.

If this is NOT the same problem, I'm sorry...but it started right this morning after a reboot when I updated the kernel. Anyone having similar issues?
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Old 10th July 2010, 02:56 AM
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Re: Fedora 13 Desktop freezes

I'm on kernel version 2.6.33.5-124.fc13.x86_64

I just tried Ubuntu and LinuxMint (same line I know, but it was worth a shot), and both froze shortly after the very 1st GRUB screen, even if I chose the option to go to compatibility mode (VESA driver). So I don't fit in with the group who can run Ubuntu without freezes.

I'm going to start a separate thread about my issue under a similar title.
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Old 12th July 2010, 08:43 PM
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Re: Fedora 13 Desktop freezes

tsmurf: try creating a file /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist-dell.conf with this content:

blacklist dell-wmi

and see if that fixes your problem. (It'll likely stop the extended keys on your laptop's keyboard from working, note). If it does, then your particular issue is a bug in the dell-wmi kernel module.

Note to everyone else: don't bother trying this unless you also have suspicious lines from the dell-wmi module in your logs.
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Old 12th July 2010, 09:02 PM
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Re: Fedora 13 Desktop freezes

I played with Xorg and didn't have any success...if I force a manual config it only creates problems.

Just tried the blacklist-dell.conf and will see what happens.

Fortunately the only extended keys are a rocker for volume control and one for mute/unmute.

Let the waiting begin to see if it freezes...

Thanks.
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Old 13th July 2010, 08:49 PM
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Re: Fedora 13 Desktop freezes

No luck with the dell-wmi thing.

It went about 25 hours and then froze. I'm going to comb over the latest logs to see if there is any even remote clue.

Thanks.
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Old 15th July 2010, 06:20 PM
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Re: Fedora 13 Desktop freezes

Hi
Just to add my method of locking up the Desktop.
Start either Openoffice, or Dia and lock the Desktop. The mouse still moves,
but the keyboard is frozen, with no access to the F2-F6 terminals

ssh access to the machine still works, however I can't stop X by dropping
to runlevel 3, as telinit 3 appears to do nothing :-(

The only way I can get the system back is a 5 second hold on the power button.
I never get any abrt crash messages.
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Old 15th July 2010, 10:17 PM
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Re: Fedora 13 Desktop freezes

Hi all,

Well, while I was on kernel 2.6.33.3-85.fc13.i686 I didn't suffer a desktop freeze (mouse still moving). Trouble was Virtualbox was not allowing me to start the guest machine.

I downloaded the latest Virtualbox version from the Virtualbox website and followed the instructions given including running "yum update".

This has now left me on kernel 2.6.33.6-147.fc13.i686 and the freezing (mouse still moving) is back. There are no error messages in var/log/dmesg that I can see (although I can post the whole thing if it's useful) and their was no crash alert before the freeze but copied below is the Bug Reporter backtrace - it marked it up as a kernel crash.

Quote:
WARNING: at mm/highmem.c:453 debug_kmap_atomic+0xad/0x12a()
Hardware name: Dimension 2350
Modules linked in: aes_i586 aes_generic fuse vboxnetadp vboxnetflt vboxdrv p4_clockmod ip6t_REJECT nf_conntrack_ipv6 ip6table_filter ip6_tables ipv6 uinput arc4 ecb rt61pci crc_itu_t snd_intel8x0 rt2x00pci rt2x00lib snd_ac97_codec ac97_bus mac80211 snd_seq snd_seq_device b44 cfg80211 iTCO_wdt ssb iTCO_vendor_support rfkill mmc_core ppdev snd_pcm i2c_i801 mii eeprom_93cx6 snd_timer snd parport_pc soundcore parport snd_page_alloc dcdbas microcode i915 drm_kms_helper drm i2c_algo_bit i2c_core video output [last unloaded: scsi_wait_scan]
Pid: 2211, comm: VirtualBox Tainted: G W 2.6.33.6-147.fc13.i686 #1
Call Trace:
[<c0436e31>] warn_slowpath_common+0x65/0x7c
[<c04aa561>] ? debug_kmap_atomic+0xad/0x12a
[<c0436e55>] warn_slowpath_null+0xd/0x10
[<c04aa561>] debug_kmap_atomic+0xad/0x12a
[<c04240ec>] kmap_atomic_prot+0x51/0xd2
[<f7da5f5d>] ? i915_error_object_create+0x5d/0xfa [i915]
[<c042417b>] kmap_atomic+0xe/0x10
[<f7da5f9f>] i915_error_object_create+0x9f/0xfa [i915]
[<f7da632a>] i915_handle_error+0x330/0x813 [i915]
[<f7da68ac>] i915_hangcheck_elapsed+0x9f/0xdf [i915]
[<c0441a35>] run_timer_softirq+0x163/0x1e6
[<f7da680d>] ? i915_hangcheck_elapsed+0x0/0xdf [i915]
[<c043c20d>] __do_softirq+0xac/0x152
[<c043c2e4>] do_softirq+0x31/0x3c
[<c043c3f8>] irq_exit+0x29/0x5c
[<c0417fb7>] smp_apic_timer_interrupt+0x6f/0x7d
[<c07714c5>] apic_timer_interrupt+0x31/0x38
[<c077007b>] ? __mutex_lock_common+0xde/0x15f
The only plus is that Virtualbox now works if only between freezes.

It does seem to be a kernel thing, no?

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Old 18th July 2010, 04:13 PM
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Re: Fedora 13 Desktop freezes

Still freezing on my end. Tried switching to XFCE from Gnome and it still froze.

Here's my /var/log/messages from the last two freezes.

Jul 17 09:44:04 JeffPrecision abrt[5294]: saved core dump of pid 1881 (/usr/bin/Xorg) to /var/cache/abrt/ccpp-1279377843-1881.new/coredump
(41861120 bytes)
Jul 17 09:44:04 JeffPrecision abrtd: Directory 'ccpp-1279377843-1881' creation detected
Jul 17 09:44:04 JeffPrecision abrtd: Registered Database plugin 'SQLite3'
Jul 17 09:44:12 JeffPrecision kernel: [drm] nouveau 0000:01:00.0: nouveau_channel_free: freeing fifo 2
Jul 17 09:44:12 JeffPrecision kernel: [drm] nouveau 0000:01:00.0: Failed to idle channel 2.
Jul 17 09:44:12 JeffPrecision kernel: [drm] nouveau 0000:01:00.0: PGRAPH idle timed out with status 0x00b00003
Jul 17 09:44:12 JeffPrecision kernel: [drm] nouveau 0000:01:00.0: PGRAPH idle timed out with status 0x00b00003
Jul 17 09:44:12 JeffPrecision kernel: [drm] nouveau 0000:01:00.0: PGRAPH idle timed out with status 0x00b00103
Jul 17 09:44:12 JeffPrecision gnome-keyring-daemon[2142]: dbus failure unregistering from session: Connection is closed
Jul 17 09:44:12 JeffPrecision gnome-keyring-daemon[2142]: dbus failure unregistering from session: Connection is closed
Jul 17 09:44:12 JeffPrecision NetworkManager[1548]: <info> (eth1): device state change: 8 -> 3 (reason 38)
Jul 17 09:44:12 JeffPrecision NetworkManager[1548]: <info> (eth1): deactivating device (reason: 38).
Jul 17 09:44:12 JeffPrecision NetworkManager[1548]: <info> (eth1): canceled DHCP transaction, DHCP client pid 5214
Jul 17 09:44:12 JeffPrecision NetworkManager[1548]: <error> [1279377852.937919] [nm-system.c:1229] check_one_route(): (eth1): error -34 ret
urned from rtnl_route_del(): Sucess#012
Jul 17 09:44:12 JeffPrecision avahi-daemon[1559]: Withdrawing address record for 192.168.1.5 on eth1.
Jul 17 09:44:12 JeffPrecision avahi-daemon[1559]: Leaving mDNS multicast group on interface eth1.IPv4 with address 192.168.1.5.
Jul 17 09:44:12 JeffPrecision avahi-daemon[1559]: Interface eth1.IPv4 no longer relevant for mDNS.
Jul 17 09:44:13 JeffPrecision console-kit-daemon[1901]: WARNING: Couldn't read /proc/2079/environ: Failed to open file '/proc/2079/environ'
: No such file or directory
Jul 17 09:44:13 JeffPrecision abrtd: New crash /var/cache/abrt/ccpp-1279377843-1881, processing
Jul 17 09:44:13 JeffPrecision abrtd: Registered Action plugin 'RunApp'
Jul 17 09:44:13 JeffPrecision abrtd: RunApp('/var/cache/abrt/ccpp-1279377843-1881','test x"`cat component`" = x"xorg-x11-server-Xorg" && cp /var/log/Xorg.0.log .')
Jul 17 09:44:13 JeffPrecision kernel: [drm] nouveau 0000:01:00.0: GPU lockup - switching to software fbcon
Jul 17 09:44:14 JeffPrecision ntpd[1781]: Deleting interface #11 eth1, 192.168.1.5#123, interface stats: received=9, sent=10, dropped=0, active_time=623 secs
Jul 17 09:44:14 JeffPrecision ntpd[1781]: 72.18.205.156 interface 192.168.1.5 -> (null)
Jul 17 09:44:14 JeffPrecision ntpd[1781]: 208.77.19.5 interface 192.168.1.5 -> (null)
Jul 17 09:44:14 JeffPrecision ntpd[1781]: 206.210.192.99 interface 192.168.1.5 -> (null)
Jul 17 09:44:14 JeffPrecision kernel: [drm] nouveau 0000:01:00.0: Allocating FIFO number 2
Jul 17 09:44:14 JeffPrecision kernel: [drm] nouveau 0000:01:00.0: nouveau_channel_alloc: initialised FIFO 2
Jul 17 09:45:42 JeffPrecision kernel: imklog 4.4.2, log source = /proc/kmsg started.

Freeze 2:
Jul 18 07:16:34 JeffPrecision kernel: dell-wmi: Received unknown WMI event (0x11)
Jul 18 07:46:37 JeffPrecision kernel: dell-wmi: Received unknown WMI event (0x11)
Jul 18 08:43:28 JeffPrecision kernel: dell-wmi: Received unknown WMI event (0x11)
Jul 18 08:47:09 JeffPrecision kernel: npviewer.bin[4057]: segfault at 418 ip 00000000026dda56 sp 00000000ff8c1b18 error 6 in libflashplayer.so[248f000+b04000]
Jul 18 08:47:09 JeffPrecision abrt[6565]: saved core dump of pid 4057 (/usr/lib/nspluginwrapper/npviewer.bin (deleted)) to /var/cache/abrt/ccpp-1279460829-4057.new/coredump (116715520 bytes)
Jul 18 08:47:09 JeffPrecision abrtd: Directory 'ccpp-1279460829-4057' creation detected
Jul 18 08:47:09 JeffPrecision abrtd: Executable '/usr/lib/nspluginwrapper/npviewer.bin (deleted)' doesn't belong to any package
Jul 18 08:47:09 JeffPrecision abrtd: Corrupted or bad crash /var/cache/abrt/ccpp-1279460829-4057 (res:4), deleting
Jul 18 08:54:59 JeffPrecision kernel: imklog 4.4.2, log source = /proc/kmsg started.
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