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Old 6th June 2010, 09:37 AM
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A new DVD is needed, the current one is already obsolete

I upgraded from Fedora 12 to Fedora 13 yesterday by using the install/upgrade DVD. When I updated the system after the upgrade, it downloaded 1.3 GB of packages!!!

I think 1.3 GB of updates is a huge amount for a system that has been published just a while ago!

Would it be possible for the Fedora Team to publish an updated installation DVD? It would save a lot of upgrading time by eliminating a huge update!
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Old 6th June 2010, 11:23 AM
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Re: A new DVD is needed, the current one is already obsolete

Surely the update is smaller than a new full DVD?
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Old 6th June 2010, 12:41 PM
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Re: A new DVD is needed, the current one is already obsolete

Yes of course. But if someone had built a new installation/upgrade DVD with the latest packages the 1.3 GB update would not have been needed at all!
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Old 6th June 2010, 12:48 PM
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Re: A new DVD is needed, the current one is already obsolete

Ah ok. Don't think you'll get much joy on a forum of users though and it's probably not at the top of the dev's lists either... :-)
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Old 6th June 2010, 12:52 PM
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Re: A new DVD is needed, the current one is already obsolete

There is only ONE release per version, although from time to time http://torrent.fedoraunity.org/ will release a respin with more up-to-date packages. Fedora changes so rapidly that there's major changes every week. Probably why, if you visit the FedoraProject site, you'll see all the release info points toward the Live CD versions and not the DVD. Fewer initial packages = fewer initial updates.
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Old 6th June 2010, 04:05 PM
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Re: A new DVD is needed, the current one is already obsolete

Hi,

Fedora usually provides a "net installation CD", in short "netinst". It only has a boot loader and installer, all actual packages are retrieved from the net and are thus you directly get the latest version available.

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Old 6th June 2010, 04:43 PM
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Re: A new DVD is needed, the current one is already obsolete

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Fedora usually provides a "net installation CD", in short "netinst". It only has a boot loader and installer, all actual packages are retrieved from the net and are thus you directly get the latest version available.
Preupgrade would load only the latest packages as well. I'm upgrading, not installing.

I have five machines to upgrade, and because of the large volume and a slow Internet connection I downloaded one install/upgrade DVD. Then I upgraded one machine and then updated it. I did not just update it with "yum update" but I yumdownload'ed the new packages (1.3 GB!) and saved them to a USB memory, so that I could upgrade and update several machines with a single download.

I remember that when I did the same thing with Fedora 12, then after couple of weeks after publishing of Fedora 12 the update size was about 800 GB...
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Old 6th June 2010, 05:22 PM
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Re: A new DVD is needed, the current one is already obsolete

Uhoh, then that's probably true for the CD as well.

Which means I'm in a steadily rising load of brown stuff . . . :P
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Old 6th June 2010, 05:27 PM
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Re: A new DVD is needed, the current one is already obsolete

Yet another reason to go with a minimalist install, I guess...
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