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Old 23rd September 2011, 07:45 PM
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(Somewhat advanced) testing request!

Hey, folks. For those of you who more or less know what you're doing, we have a testing request for the Beta Details follow:

Hey, folks. So, as most of you probably know, one of the big bugs that's
been holding up the Beta is https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=738964 - various issues related to bootloader installation with the wrinkles of grub2 and GPT disk labels.

There are now not one but *two* updates images with test fixes for the bugs:

http://dlehman.fedorapeople.org/updates-738964.7.img
http://dlehman.fedorapeople.org/upda...7-nohammer.img

The second one improves the anaconda code which excludes the device anaconda is being installed from (particularly if it's a USB stick) from consideration as an install or bootloader target device, and also tries much harder to honor the user's choice of the device where the bootloader should be installed on all the non-custom-partitioning paths. Just these two fixes should address the most urgent cases of this bug.

The first one also tries to create a BIOS boot partition on any GPT labelled disk present - whether formatted by anaconda or not - which has enough free space and which does not currently have one, if the system is BIOS-based. This should act as a 'big hammer' to make sure you can pretty much always install the bootloader wherever you like, but obviously it's a pretty big and possibly problematic change.

We really need testing with both images, to establish a couple of things:

1) if you've had problems with the bootloader installing somewhere you didn't expect in Beta RC1 and previous builds, please test whether your issue is fixed (it's best if you can test with each updates.img and report on both, but if you can only test one, that's fine too)

2) if either image has bugs that don't exist in Beta RC1: as much testing as possible, with any kind of installation, is useful here. Just try an install with either updates.img, and if you hit a problem, confirm that it doesn't exist in Beta RC1, and add a comment to 738964.

Particularly interesting configurations would be installing to a system which already has one completely full GPT-labelled disk that you choose not to reformat, installing to a system with an existing GPT-labelled disk with a BIOS boot partition that you choose not to reformat, installing to a system with an existing GPT-labelled disk *without* a BIOS boot partition that you choose not to reformat, and any kind of installation at all with multiple disks (hard disks or USB sticks) connected during install - no matter which of the disks you choose to
use or not use, and installs from both DVD and live written to a USB stick.

Note that we expect the -nohammer version to still be 'buggy' in the case where you choose manual partitioning with multiple disks present and do not create a BIOS boot partition on the target disk; it won't create one for you or require you to create one, and when you get to the bootloader location choice (which comes later in custom partitioning than in other paths), the target drive's MBR will not be an available install location. The 'hammer' version should 'fix' this case.

To use an updates.img, just pass the updates= parameter to the kernel when booting. So boot with Beta RC1, hit 'tab' at the bootloader screen, and type 'updates=http://dlehman.fedorapeople.org/updates-738964.7.img' or
'updates=http://dlehman.fedorapeople.org/updates-738964.7-nohammer.img' and then proceed to install as normal. This works for both the regular and live installers.

Thanks everyone! We really need to get testing data in and do an anaconda build today so we can get RC2 out tonight.
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Old 23rd September 2011, 07:56 PM
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Re: (Somewhat advanced) testing request!

So, i download the image, bring it on some bootable device (usb in my case).

And then restart [ VM (enough?) | Laptop ] and hit C or E and enter the url (eg: updates=http://dlehman.fedorapeople.org/updates-738964.7-nohammer.img) you've mentioned hit enter and boot into installer?
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Old 23rd September 2011, 09:56 PM
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Re: (Somewhat advanced) testing request!

er, C or E? I dunno what they do. I usually use tab. If they allow you to edit the boot parameters, then yes.
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Old 23rd September 2011, 10:39 PM
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Re: (Somewhat advanced) testing request!

Ok.
For further test, would VM suffice?

As i currently have problems with my partitions, i'm going to do a 'real hw' test anyway.
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Old 24th September 2011, 12:15 AM
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Re: (Somewhat advanced) testing request!

yeah, VM testing is good if you screw around with the disk setup.

We have updates. Unfortunately, the anaconda team messed up, and the -nohammer update actually includes the patch it shouldn't include, so it's identical to the other one.

Now there's a build of anaconda with the patches we want and not the patch we don't want, so we'll be testing with that. I've built a live image including the new anaconda and am uploading it, tflink has built a boot.iso with the new anaconda and is uploading that.

Honestly, if it looks vaguely OK in our testing we're going to request RC2, because we've been testing the wrong thing all day and we're sick of it. =)

So basically, don't bother testing the updates.img now, we have all the results we need from those; wait for the updated boot.iso / live image, or just wait for RC2.
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Old 24th September 2011, 01:29 AM
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Re: (Somewhat advanced) testing request!

In other words.

STOP! IT'S HAMMER TIME!

(Oh c'mon, somone had to post it.)
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Old 24th September 2011, 02:05 AM
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Re: (Somewhat advanced) testing request!

Downloaded: http://dl.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/...64-netinst.iso
Run 1: mistyped update/s, didnt ask to install bootloader at all, no boot after install
Run 2: NOT hammer.. asked where to install bootloader, chosen sda, no boot
Run 3: Hammer time , asked where to install bootloader, chosen sda, no boot

1 error in common (beside not booting after 'successfull' installation), whilst checking dependencies, i received the following error:
Code:
1:control/center-3.1.92-1.fc16 requires libnm/gtk.so.0()(64bit)
Great, there's a continue button... to bad it didnt boot after successfull installation

Heading for http://dl.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/...x86_64-DVD.iso now.

EDIT:
Ok, no testing then
How grreat is this, oh well, at least i got rid of those messed up LVM's
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Last edited by sea; 24th September 2011 at 02:13 AM.
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Old 24th September 2011, 02:55 AM
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Re: (Somewhat advanced) testing request!

http://lists.fedoraproject.org/piper...er/103073.html

The preRC2 netinstall images have been built and are available for
testing.
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Old 24th September 2011, 07:52 AM
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Re: (Somewhat advanced) testing request!

RC2 is done now, gonna post a new thread. Sorry for the mess here: I'm trying to keep the forums abreast with all the developments, but sometimes stuff winds up moving really fast!

It's somewhat expected to get a few dep issues if you install from the online repos right now, especially if you enable updates-testing. I'd actually probably recommend *not* enabling the updates-testing repo when doing a net install; you're more likely to get a clean install just using the 'stable' f16 repo, then once you have a basic install, you can use yum to get the latest updates-testing stuff, and skip any dep issues.
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