yum question, check for specific update on another repo

[c0ldshadow]

livna is my primary repository that i use. it doesn't have the program called tor http://tor.eff.org , so i got this from the dries repo doing yum --enablerepo=dries install tor.i386

my question is how can i check for updates just for tor on the dries repo.

if i do yum --enablerepo=dries --disablerepo=livna update , i get conflicts and stuff for other things

all i want to be able to do is check for updates for tor without having to worry about conflicting repositories.

i tried doing yum --enablerepo=dries update tor.i386 but it says:

Could not find update match for tor.i386

note: tor didnt need an update, i just wanted to see if it would find anything.

the error message is misleading:
i dont know if it means that it detects a tor.386 on the repo, but there isnt an update..

or if it means:

there isn't an software named tor.i386 (there should be though b/c i installed it via yum --enablerepo=dries install tor.i386

any advice greatly appreciated.
-c0ldshadow

[bob]

If you want to know, try 'yum --enablerepo=dries search tor.i386' and it will tell you all locations, including what's installed and what version numbers are out there, including dries.

[c0ldshadow]

hey thanks for the advice. if there is a new version on dries, can i update it though? if so, how? if i search and find a new tor do i need to rpm -e my current tor and d/l the new one, or can yum handle this type of situation somehow?

[bob]

Sure, if you check out the 'man yum' pages, it gives you a bunch of options. Again, if you suspect that a new version exists, you'd use the 'yum --enablerepo=dries update tor' . No need to remove the old one, yum will handle it all for you.

[c0ldshadow]

bob, i already tried that actually, and i get the following message, but i dont know what to think of it.

Could not find update match for tor

personally i think this is a misleading/confusing message.
it could either mean that its not even finding tor on the dries repo, or it could mean there is simply no update available for tor... when i try putting tor.i386 i get the same message, except it says tor.i386 at the end. when i installed tor i did it using tor.386.

what does this message mean?

peace,
-ave

[u-noneinc-s]

I have also had this problem in the past. I'd check-updates and see that some updates were available so I'd do update,
and find no packages to update. I'd run check-update again and the updates that were previously listed were not there.

Maybe a lag in mirrors getting updated or something like that?

Anyway, next day the updates appeared again and finally mavaged to get them updated.

[c0ldshadow]

as far as i know there is not an update for tor available.. the thing that is confusing me is this message:

Could not find update match for tor

what does this mean? does it mean that it can't find tor on the repo? does it mean that it found tor, but there isn't an update?

if tor does get updated, will i still get the messsage:
Could not find update match for tor
after i do:
yum --enablerepo=dries update tor ?

basically im not sure if doing yum --enablerepo=dries update tor will actually update tor when there is an update. b/c the message above leads me to think that its not even finding tor on the server possibly.

[bob]

Okay, then you have several options: 'yum --enablerepo=dries check-update tor' or 'yum --enablerepo=dries search tor' (that one will give you what it finds and you can check your version number vs. what's found) or 'yum --enablerepo=dries list recent'. All this stuff is in 'man yum'.

I believe that what you're seeing is that yum has searched tor and found that no newer version exists. If it had not found tor in the search, the result should have been 'no match found'.

[c0ldshadow]

bob, i dont think you are right about the "no match found"... here is why

[root@deeptide ~]# yum --enablerepo=dries update tor
Setting up Update Process
Setting up repositories
dries                     100% |=========================|  951 B    00:00
livna                     100% |=========================|  951 B    00:00
updates-released          100% |=========================|  951 B    00:00
base                      100% |=========================| 1.1 kB    00:00
extras                    100% |=========================| 1.1 kB    00:00
Reading repository metadata in from local files
primary.xml.gz            100% |=========================| 842 kB    00:02
dries     : ################################################## 3520/3520
Added 139 new packages, deleted 168 old in 7.01 seconds
Could not find update match for tor
No Packages marked for Update/Obsoletion
[root@deeptide ~]# yum --enablerepo=dries update tor98234923
Setting up Update Process
Setting up repositories
dries                     100% |=========================|  951 B    00:00
livna                     100% |=========================|  951 B    00:00
updates-released          100% |=========================|  951 B    00:00
base                      100% |=========================| 1.1 kB    00:00
extras                    100% |=========================| 1.1 kB    00:00
Reading repository metadata in from local files
primary.xml.gz            100% |=========================| 849 kB    00:02
dries     : ################################################## 3549/3549
Added 168 new packages, deleted 139 old in 6.97 seconds
Could not find update match for tor98234923
No Packages marked for Update/Obsoletion

it gives the same type of error for both, even though the garbled package doesnt exist.

it makes we think that yum will never find an update for tor, b/c it seems as if its not finding the tor program on the repo or something, even though i installed the tor program from dries.

[bob]

Well, I'm going from memory right now which is a lousy way to operate at my age, since yum has a gpg key problem that I'm going to have to fix to check anything out. Anyway, if you're concerned, use the 'list recent' or the 'search' and see if a newer version exists.

If I ever get yum straightened out and can provide more info, I'll be happy to continue this, but for now I'm outta the loop.

[u-noneinc-s]

I just tried yum search tor, and unfortunately, it returns every package that has tor in it's name or description
ie vectors, administrators, etc (never ending list) I guess search acts like grep.

I do not have tor installed, so yum update tor returned the same message as c0ldshadow.

However, I think justol'bob is right. If I do yum install turd (a non existant package) I get "No Match for
argument: turd" again update turd will retun edit Could not find update match for turd
(I think update doesn't know that turd doesn't exist, it only knows that it's not available
for update)